When did Jesus forgive us all our sins? Part 1

UPdated: 23rd Feb 09

“Oh that the world would know and see, that the church would see…

“behold the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.” John 1:29

Quoting Wayne Duncan, from Grace Revolution forum

Thanks that’s the revelation I just got now. This truth will change my life- I know it.

When did Jesus forgive us all our sins- past present and future? When did He die?

When you believed in Him, or before you even had the chance to believe in Him, that’s about 2000 years ago?

Before we believed, our sins have been forgiven through His One Sacrifice at One point in history.

That’s the Gospel we preach to the lost- Jesus has already forgiven you!
*You don’t have to ask Him to forgive you for your sins to be forgiven
*You don’t have to confess your sins for Him to forgive you
Most ‘sinner’s prayer’ goes like this… “O Lord forgive me of my sins have mercy on me a sinner…I confess my sins so that you can forgive me”

THAT’S ACTUALLY WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You don’t have to earn your forgiveness, work for your forgiveness, pray to get your forgiveness, confess your sins to get forgiveness, fast to get your forgiveness, read the bible to get your forgiveness, obey the commandments to get your forgiveness (that’s Old Covenant Practice)- ALL your past present and future sins have already been forgiven!!!

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All you have to do is understand-change your mind-believe in Jesus, and you will be born-again!

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Instead the sinner should say, “Thankyou Jesus for your mercy(not giving me judgement) and grace (giving me forgiveness), You have already forgiven me of my sins! I repent of my unbelief, All I have to do is BELIEVE!!!”

How can a Christian loose their salvation?
if their sins had already been dealt with and forgiven at the crucifixtion before they believed, now that they have believed and received their forgiveness- how can God all of a sudden recall their sins for which He already forgave them before they got saved?

How can God punish the same sins twice?

That’s the difference between the Old Covenant and New Covenant. In the Old Covenant you had to forgive others in order to get forgiveness from God, but since Jesus died on the cross, now in the New Covenant, you can forgive others freely because Christ Forgave you at the Cross!!

That teaching that says, ” now that you are saved, there is a possiblity that you can loose your salvation- you are saved by keeping the law, and if you don’t get to confess your sins before you die, you could goto hell”

IS NOT WHAT JESUS DIED FOR!!!
That is not the Gospel! It’s no gospel at all! !!! It’s not the good news about the forgiveness of sins which we are called to preach to all nations!

JESUS DIED FOR E-T-E-R-N-A-L REDEMPTION!!!

Christians don’t have to confess their sins to be forgiven, they are already forgiven! please have a listen to Rob’s teaching on ‘Do Christians have to confess their sins to God?” 08/06/08 for deep expository on 1 John 1:9, on http://www.citychurchinternational.net/2008.html

(1John 1:9 was written in the context of Gnosticisim- written to people who didn’t believe in the existence of sin, they didn’t believe you could sin and they were bringing that heresy to the church. So John was writing to them to tell them to acknowledge that they’ve sinned so they could get saved. That Scripture was addressed to unblievers and believers who were confused by Gnosticism)

Eternal life is ‘ETERNAL life’ because all our FUTURE sins have been forgiven!!! NOT JUST PAST OR PRESENT SINS FORGIVEN! otherwise the moment we become born-again we would loose our salvation right away because I have moved from the present to the future and there are unintentional sins, sins of ommisions, sins of no knowledge that I do not even know about.

Luke 24:47 and repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

2 Cor 5:19 In other words, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting people’s trespasses against them, and he has given us the message of reconciliation.

Through the Cross God was not counting people’s sins against them- that means He has already forgiven them!!!

John 19:30 When he had received the sour wine, Jesus said, “It is COMPLETED/FINISHED!” 2 Then he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

Scriptures taken from net.bible.org

As my pastor’s wife said once,
“What part of ‘Completed/finished’ don’t you understand!”
Let the grace revolution hit the evangelism arena!
Thankyou!!!

Titus 2:11-12 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all people, It trains us 1 to reject godless ways 2 and worldly desires and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age,

This truth will actually change your heart to love God more than ever before and express that through obedience.

Check out this posts as well on Voice of Grace:

is our sin gone or will it only be completely removed at the return of Jesus?

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5 thoughts on “When did Jesus forgive us all our sins? Part 1

  1. Pingback: The blessings will Run after you, Part 1 « Let the Grace Revolution Arise in the earth today!!!

    • Hi Johnathan, thanks for your comment.
      The Lord’s prayer says, “Father forgive us our sins…” yes I still personally do confess my sins to God daily. But I don’t do it out of fear, guilt, condemnation, or unworthiness Because I know my Father sees me Righteousness in Christ and has given me His Perfect Record- He loves me unconditionally.
      We don’t confess our sins to Get forgiveness because we’re already forgiven through Jesus One Sacrifce, but we confess ours sins for the sake of Relationship and Transparency, Openess.
      I don’t claim to know all the answers and my views are ever growing and changing, but through my journey as a believer I can say that I have no fear of ever loosing my salvation- it is 100% secure whether I get a chance to confess my sins before I die or not. Currently at this moment in time, I confess my sins because “I want to” not because “I have to”. God is not a big angry God over His Children, trying to find fault with them every second of the day putting them under strict scruitiny, He is not a fault finding husband like the Law.
      I confess my sins out of relationship NOT for judicial salvation purpose because that is already secured. E.g a husband and a wife are legally, judicially mariied. They are in covenant relationshiup with one another bond forever until death do them apart. They love each other unconditionally no matter what. But when either one of the spouse does something wrong to another, that spouse will still apologise out of the Security of that covennat legal relationship which is unbreakable- because they love eath other, they will confess their fauilts. Does that help?
      Check out this discussion, it has some good points to ponder on:
      http://gracerevolution.ning.com/forum/topics/is-it-scriptural-for-new

      Blessings!!
      tony

      • The Lord’s prayer is not a New Testament prayer. Jesus taught this prayer before He died for our sins. The message Jesus taught was not based on the cross and His shed blood.We must rightly DIVIDE the Word of Truth, otherwise we will do what the foolish Galations(Paul’s own words)did – co-mingling the Message before the cross with the Message that came after the Cross of Christ. If you believe that Christ died for all your sins and that you get forgiveness through the blood of Jesus Christ, then you are not believig the same Message that Jesus taught. Therefore, we do not confess our sins to be saved as John the Baptist, Christ and his disciples taught. We are save when we call upon the Name of Jesus Christs and believe that He died for our sins. Sin confession has nothing to do with salvation. I am not forgiven because i confess sins. I am forgiven because I believe. The word confession in the Greek is to say the same as God say – to agree with Him. What does He say??? 2 Kor.5:18-19 is but one example – He does not reckon us our sin anymore. When you agree with what God say about your sins, you are forgiven, but if you believe you must repent in the traditional way – God will declare you righteouss upon your own works and man made confessions. Rom.4:3-4

  2. Pingback: Do Christians have to confess their sins to God, Part 2 « Let the Grace Revolution Arise in the earth today!!!

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